What's the point of turning the jaguar into a lion if there are no middle eastern civilizations in the game anymore? A bear would make more sense in this exclusive Central Europe setting.Eljuma (talk) 21:43, March 21, 2013 (UTC)
On the contrary, it makes perfect sense. Lions were very popular lordly pets in Western and Northern Europe - pretty much every lord with a lion on their coat of arms actually owned a lion. There were lion enclosures in England, Flanders, and Guelders, for example, and it wouldn't surprise me to learn other territories with the lion CoA owned them as well, such as Denmark or Bohemia - they would surely be able to afford them if a duke of Guelders could. They were also held in Angers and Nancy, and King Louis XI of France owned a leopard. Henry III owned three leopards in imitation of the ones on his shield. Charles the Bold of Burgundy owned both a lion and a lioness. Even Pope Clement VI owned a lioness, and Boniface VIII gave the town of Florence a lion. Venice also owned a pair of lions, which had been given to them by Frederick II. In the 1480s the town of Ghent actually owned eight lions, a considerable increase since they had only owned four in the 1440s. Sometimes lords also brought lions along on their travels, as Edward I did when he travelled to Gascony in the 1280s. We know of this because the expenses record payments to local men who were compensated for animals killed by the king's lions. And Philip the Good of Burgundy, during his great crusades feast, had a lion chained in the dining room to impress his guests. 195.169.216.80 21:04, March 25, 2013 (UTC)